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 ====== Xfce Design SIG (Special Interest Group) ====== ====== Xfce Design SIG (Special Interest Group) ======
  
-The Xfce Design SIG aims at improving the usability and visual appearance of the Xfce desktop environment. Our goal is to bring interested users, designers and hackers together to ensure neither of them is working in a vacuum. By establishing a context in which they can collaborate on smaller and larger design-related projects we try to increase the chance of the proposed changes to be merged into the official Xfce repositories.+The Xfce Design SIG aims at improving the usability and visual appearance of the Xfce desktop environment. Our goal is to bring interested users, designers and hackers together to ensure that none of them are working in a vacuum. By establishing a context in which they can collaborate on smaller and larger design-related projectswe try to increase the chance of the proposed changes to be merged into the official Xfce repositories.
  
 ===== Members ===== ===== Members =====
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 | Pasi Lallinaho | knome | Any UI/graphical improvement, usability/clean approaches |Mockups, artwork, CSS, ... | | Pasi Lallinaho | knome | Any UI/graphical improvement, usability/clean approaches |Mockups, artwork, CSS, ... |
 | Jon Masters | jonmasters | UI roadmap, usability/clean approaches | Recent convert, can code | | Jon Masters | jonmasters | UI roadmap, usability/clean approaches | Recent convert, can code |
 +| Steve Dodier-Lazaro | sidi | User studies, general UX roadmap | User research (field, interviews, online studies), can code |
 ===== Accepted and Active Projects ===== ===== Accepted and Active Projects =====
  
 +  * **xfce4-power-manager**
 +    * [[design:power-manager|Improvements for the Power Manager]] (Accepted, Started in Apr 2014)
   * **xfce4-profile-manager**   * **xfce4-profile-manager**
     * [[design:profile-manager|Profile Manager for xfce]] (Accepted, Started in Oct 2011)     * [[design:profile-manager|Profile Manager for xfce]] (Accepted, Started in Oct 2011)
   * **xfce4-settings**   * **xfce4-settings**
     * [[design:xfce4-settings:useraccounts|Design interface for managing user accounts]]     * [[design:xfce4-settings:useraccounts|Design interface for managing user accounts]]
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 ==== Big Tasks ==== ==== Big Tasks ====
  
-  * **xfce4-settings: Merge some settings panels**  --- //[[simon@xfce.org|Simon Steinbeiß]] 2014/03/28 12:52// +  * **xfce4-settings: Merge some settings panels** 
-    * [[design:xfce4-settings:mergedialogs|Proposal]]+    * [[design:xfce4-settings:mergedialogs|Proposal]] --- //[[simon@xfce.org|Simon Steinbeiß]] 2014/03/28 12:52// 
 +    * [[design:xfce4-settings:moremergedialogs|Proposal]] --- //[[simon@ochsenreither.de|Simon Ochsenreither]] 2017/09/28 12:00//
   * **Thunar: Improve the file operation progress dialog** --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/05/26 19:15//   * **Thunar: Improve the file operation progress dialog** --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/05/26 19:15//
     * The current shared file operation progress dialog provides rather sparse information. It is not easy to decide what information //should// be displayed and how.      * The current shared file operation progress dialog provides rather sparse information. It is not easy to decide what information //should// be displayed and how. 
-    * Initial thoughts were written down here: http://gezeiten.org/post/2009/09/Design-of-the-Thunar-Progress-Dialog 
   * **Thunar: Add a persistent, editable UI to copy/move files**  --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/09/20 15:40//   * **Thunar: Add a persistent, editable UI to copy/move files**  --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/09/20 15:40//
     * I've seen something like this in OS X recently: whenever drag-and-drop is initiated in Finder, [[http://www.techteam.gr/mac/screenshots/40050.jpg|a black drop area pops up]] at th edge of the screen. Files can be dropped there and users can later drag them from the area back into another folder or application. We could do something similar. Here are some ideas:      * I've seen something like this in OS X recently: whenever drag-and-drop is initiated in Finder, [[http://www.techteam.gr/mac/screenshots/40050.jpg|a black drop area pops up]] at th edge of the screen. Files can be dropped there and users can later drag them from the area back into another folder or application. We could do something similar. Here are some ideas: 
       * Have a simple D-Bus service that allows to store/retrieve a list of URIs (potentially grouped by an application or task specific ID). Have a standalone application or a panel plugin implement this to visualize the files that are in memory. Maybe split up the visualization into a "copy" and a "cut" area. In Thunar, add URIs to this storage if Ctrl+C/Ctrl+X are pressed or whatever other methods there are to initiate a copy/cut operation. Heck, maybe even allow arbitrary objects to be stored instead of just URIs, perhaps using a semantic temporary storage. We could also think about defining standard storage group IDs for common purposes.  --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/09/20 15:40//       * Have a simple D-Bus service that allows to store/retrieve a list of URIs (potentially grouped by an application or task specific ID). Have a standalone application or a panel plugin implement this to visualize the files that are in memory. Maybe split up the visualization into a "copy" and a "cut" area. In Thunar, add URIs to this storage if Ctrl+C/Ctrl+X are pressed or whatever other methods there are to initiate a copy/cut operation. Heck, maybe even allow arbitrary objects to be stored instead of just URIs, perhaps using a semantic temporary storage. We could also think about defining standard storage group IDs for common purposes.  --- //[[jannis@xfce.org|Jannis Pohlmann]] 2011/09/20 15:40//
 +  * **xfce4-session:** Evaluate the session saving and resuming feature 
 +    * [[design:xfce4-session:sessionsaving|Evaluate the usability of session saving]] (Started in Nov 2014)
   * **xfce4-networkmanager** --- //[[leo@leo-unglaub.net|Leo Unglaub]] 2012/10/31//   * **xfce4-networkmanager** --- //[[leo@leo-unglaub.net|Leo Unglaub]] 2012/10/31//
     * [[design:xfce4-networkmanager|Proposal]]     * [[design:xfce4-networkmanager|Proposal]]
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   * **Thunar: Show free-space-status of devices in sidebar**   * **Thunar: Show free-space-status of devices in sidebar**
     * [[design/thunar/freespaceindicator|Show free space indicator in Thunar's sidebar]] --- //[[simon.steinbeiss@univie.ac.at|Simon Steinbeiß]] 2012/01/03 13:50//     * [[design/thunar/freespaceindicator|Show free space indicator in Thunar's sidebar]] --- //[[simon.steinbeiss@univie.ac.at|Simon Steinbeiß]] 2012/01/03 13:50//
-  * **Terminal: Make tabs look the same as in other programs**.  
-    * See https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7616 for more information. A [[https://bugzilla.xfce.org/attachment.cgi?id=3703|screenshots of the difference]] is in the bug too. 
-      * I agree the tabs look nicer, but the border around the VteWidget is ugly and makes the terminal resize. --- //[[nick@xfce.org|Nick Schermer]] 2011/06/04 10:34// 
-  * **Thunar and keyboard** --- //[[pops451@gmail.com|pops]] 2011/06/05 13:23// 
-    * When you create a new folder or file, you type the name, press enter and then you want to open it by pressing enter a second time but you can't. Solution is to just make the file/folder selected after it was created. --- //[[pops451@gmail.com|pops]] 2011/06/05 13:23// 
-  * **xfwm4-tabwin** //[[nick@afternight.org|nickl]] 2011/06/05// 
-    * Users should have the option of only showing the outline of the window (which is currently the only option) or the actual window itself, when alt-tabbing.  This is especially useful, for example, when you have many terminals open on a single desktop and what to see what's in each one.  
-      * Showing the window makes cycling slower and there is an option to cycle windows of the same application which helps with many terminals. See [[https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2701|Bug 2701]] for more information on this matter. --- //[[peter@xfce.org|Peter de Ridder]] 2011/12/16 11:24// 
-    * Would also be nice if the opacity of the window being shown could be selected.  
   * **Clean up the theme and wallpaper collection.** Include Shimmer themes in the collection.  --- //[[pasi@shimmerproject.org|Pasi Lallinaho]] 2011/06/22 22:56//   * **Clean up the theme and wallpaper collection.** Include Shimmer themes in the collection.  --- //[[pasi@shimmerproject.org|Pasi Lallinaho]] 2011/06/22 22:56//
     * I think that this can by a good solution for the gtk3-engine-xfce and the theme in gtk3, since nobody care for these component nor the theming, I think is good simply and for all select a non engine-dependant theme and whit popper maintainance. And make it the default.     * I think that this can by a good solution for the gtk3-engine-xfce and the theme in gtk3, since nobody care for these component nor the theming, I think is good simply and for all select a non engine-dependant theme and whit popper maintainance. And make it the default.
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   * **Change default window shadows**   * **Change default window shadows**
     * Xfwm4 window shadows are almost symmetrical, which doesn't look right with most of the Gtk themes. Also, many themes needlessly override these settings, preventing users from setting their own values. See https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8408 for more information.  --- //[[ndrwrdck@gmail.com|Andrzej]] 2012/02/08 10:55//     * Xfwm4 window shadows are almost symmetrical, which doesn't look right with most of the Gtk themes. Also, many themes needlessly override these settings, preventing users from setting their own values. See https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8408 for more information.  --- //[[ndrwrdck@gmail.com|Andrzej]] 2012/02/08 10:55//
 +  * **Xfce4-session: Add options for gpg and ssh agent startup **
 +    * [[https://wiki.xfce.org/design/xfce4-session/gpg-ssh-agents|Redesign the Advanced tab of Session and Startup]] to allow the user to select how to handle their gpg and ssh keys. //eric_the_idiot 2015/02/15//
 +  * **Menu bars: More consistency **  --- //[[simon@ochsenreither.de|Simon Ochsenreither]] 2017/09/28 12:00//
 +    * Introduce setting to show/hide menu bar by default (probably using ''Gtk/ShellShowsMenubar'' underneath)
 +    * Introduce common shortcut to temporarily display menu bar (many non-Xfce applications use ''Alt'' for this purpose)