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| ===== Overall Plans ===== | ===== Overall Plans ===== |
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| For Xfce 4.20, the plan is, to add preliminary support to Wayland to core components without losing X11 support. This doesn't mean that by the next major release an Xfce session on Wayland will offer all existing features, but we hope it will be minimally usable. We also intend to continue refining our applications to work acceptably on Wayland (those that already work or can be made to work with low effort). | For Xfce 4.20, the plan was to add preliminary support to Wayland to core components without losing X11 support. This doesn't mean that by the next major release an Xfce session on Wayland will offer all existing features, but we hope it will be minimally usable. We also intend to continue refining our applications to work acceptably on Wayland (those that already work or can be made to work with low effort). |
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| | For Xfce 4.22, the stabilization work continues. Reaching X11 feature parity is not yet our target. |
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| Check the table in the [[#component specific status]] section for details and labelled issues by group: | Check the table in the [[#component specific status]] section for details and labelled issues by group: |
| * Prevent dependency on libgnome-desktop | * Prevent dependency on libgnome-desktop |
| * xfce4-panel and xfdesktop have been ported to Wayland assuming our compositor will be based on wlroots. | * xfce4-panel and xfdesktop have been ported to Wayland assuming our compositor will be based on wlroots. |
| * There is also an [[https://github.com/adlocode/xfwm4/tree/wayland|unofficial port of xfwm4]] in progress. | * We plan to port xfwm4 to Wayland using wlroots but it will only be for Xfce 4.22 at best. |
| * Keep X11 compatibility for the foreseeable future | * Keep X11 compatibility for the foreseeable future |
| * Nvidia support to Wayland is still problematic, one more reason to keep X11 backward compatibility (nouveau driver usually is slower) | * Nvidia support to Wayland is still problematic, one more reason to keep X11 backward compatibility (nouveau driver usually is slower) |
| | xfconf | yes | | | | xfconf | yes | | |
| | [[#xfdesktop]] | yes | See below | | | [[#xfdesktop]] | yes | See below | |
| | [[#xfwm4]] | no | | | | xfwm4 | no | | |
| | [[#xfce4-power-manager]] | yes | See below | | | [[#xfce4-power-manager]] | yes | See below | |
| | tumbler | yes | | | | tumbler | yes | | |
| * Workspaces support needs an X11/Wayland abstraction, and could use the wlr-workspace-unstable-v1 protocol on Wayland. | * Workspaces support needs an X11/Wayland abstraction, and could use the wlr-workspace-unstable-v1 protocol on Wayland. |
| * Listing all toplevel windows (windowlist menu, window icons on desktop) needs an X11/Wayland abstraction, and could use the wlr-foreign-toplevel-management-unstable-v1 protocol on Wayland. | * Listing all toplevel windows (windowlist menu, window icons on desktop) needs an X11/Wayland abstraction, and could use the wlr-foreign-toplevel-management-unstable-v1 protocol on Wayland. |
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| === xfwm4 === | |
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| * Unofficial port to Wayland in progress: https://github.com/adlocode/xfwm4/tree/wayland | |
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| === xfce4-settings === | === xfce4-settings === |
| | catfish | yes | | | | catfish | yes | | |
| | xfburn | yes | | | | xfburn | yes | | |
| | parole | yes | no systray icon ([[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/parole/-/issues/126|parole#126]]) | | | parole | yes | player window is not embedded ([[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/parole/-/issues/134|parole#134]]), no systray icon ([[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/parole/-/issues/126|parole#126]]) | |
| | [[#xfce4-screenshooter]] | yes | partial, see below | | | [[#xfce4-screenshooter]] | yes | Active Window not supported | |
| | xfce4-screensaver | no | Port to Wayland is essentially done [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screensaver/-/merge_requests/28|xfce4-screensaver!28]] \\ But this requires [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/kelnos/libwlembed|libwlembed]], which is still experimental and has no release at this stage (2024-02-04) | | | xfce4-screensaver | no | Port to Wayland is essentially done [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screensaver/-/merge_requests/28|xfce4-screensaver!28]] \\ But this requires [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/kelnos/libwlembed|libwlembed]], which is still experimental and has no release at this stage (2024-02-04) | |
| | xfmpc | yes | | | | xfmpc | yes | | |
| === xfce4-screenshooter === | === xfce4-screenshooter === |
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| Wayland does not specify a native interface for the compositor for taking screenshots and it [[https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland/-/issues/32|looks like]] it never will. We decided to use wlroots' [[https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlr-protocols/-/blob/master/unstable/wlr-screencopy-unstable-v1.xml|screencopy protocol]] because that's probably what our compositor will support. | Entire Screen screenshot was initially [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screenshooter/-/merge_requests/52|implemented]] using wlroots' [[https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wlroots/wlr-protocols/-/blob/master/unstable/wlr-screencopy-unstable-v1.xml|screencopy protocol]]. Eventually support for ''ext-image-capture-source-v1'' and ''ext-image-copy-capture-v1'' was added. It's very likely that ''wlr-screencopy-unstable-v1'' (fallback) support will be dropped in the future. |
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| At the moment only Entire Screen screenshots are supported ([[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screenshooter/-/merge_requests/52|xfce4-screenshooter!52]]), Rectangle Selection will be implemented next but Active Window is going to be much trickier, perhaps we'll need a custom protocol for our compositor to take care of that. | Rectangle Selection was [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screenshooter/-/merge_requests/80|implemented]] using gtk-layer-shell (''wlr_layer_shell_v1''). Active Window isn't possible with current protocols, perhaps we'll need a custom protocol for our compositor to take care of that. |
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| If we want to support compositors that don't implement the protocol above, we have to add DBus Support for [[https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal|org.freedesktop.portal.Screenshot]]. This however is not planned and it's unlikely we'll ever fully support other compositors. | Compositors that don't implement the protocols mentioned above will not be supported. |
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| | xfce4-weather-plugin | yes | | | | xfce4-weather-plugin | yes | | |
| | xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin | yes | icons issue, menu window floating | | | xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin | yes | icons issue, menu window floating | |
| | xfce4-windowck-plugin | no | does not work (Libwnck) | | | xfce4-windowck-plugin | no | [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-windowck-plugin/-/issues/37|to be fixed]], exits early and removes itself on Wayland for now | |
| | xfce4-xkb-plugin | no | crashes (Libwnck) | | | xfce4-xkb-plugin | no | Non-portable to Wayland in the near future, exits early and removes itself for now | |
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| ===== Testing ===== | ===== Testing ===== |
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| Info about testing specific components. | Regarding the version to test: master, or latest dev release would be best. If you don't test master, best add info on which version you tested. |
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| Regarding the version to test: master, or latest dev release would be best, though latest stable release as well will do. Currently there is not much difference for most components. If you don't test master, best add info on which version you tested. | |
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| If you run a NVidia GPU, you will need to use the "Nouveau" driver for testing, Since the proprietary NVidia driver does not provide Wayland support. (Though some things might work in some cases) | If you run a NVidia GPU, you will need to use the "Nouveau" driver for testing, Since the proprietary NVidia driver does not provide Wayland support. (Though some things might work in some cases) |
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| ==== Native Wayland ==== | A wlroots compositor is almost a prerequisite for most core components (as well as panel plugins and some apps), at least to ensure that all features ported to Wayland are available. The default compositor is labwc, but wayfire is another wlroots compositor on which tests have generally been carried out. |
| * Install Weston with your distribution package manager (if a Wlroots-based compositor is required, as for **[[#xfce4-panel]]**, see [[https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/-/merge_requests/103|this MR]] for more information) | |
| * Maybe set a minimal configuration, for example <file ini ~/.config/weston.ini>[keyboard] | To start an Xfce session on Wayland, you can run ''startxfce4 %%--%%wayland'' from a tty, which will launch xfce4-session from labwc. If you want to use wayfire instead, you'll need to run ''startxfce4 %%--%%wayland wayfire'' and add this configuration first, as wayfire doesn't have a ''%%--%%startup'' option like labwc (see ''startxfce4 %%--%%help'' for details): |
| keymap_layout=fr | <file ini ~/.config/wayfire.ini> |
| numlock-on=true | [autostart] |
| | session = xfce4-session |
| </file> | </file> |
| * Run ''weston'' in a terminal emulator, or better: in a tty with a different user, or by logging out of the X11 session first (the compositor may not have quite the same behavior, and this avoids interactions with the current environment) | |
| * If run in a terminal emulator, make sure at least the component to test isn't already running in your X11 session (e.g Thunar as daemon) | Configuration adaptations may be required for other compositors as well, if they also don't have a ''%%--%%startup'' option to pass to startxfce4. |
| * Open a terminal in the Weston session and start the component which is to be tested | |
| | A ''@datadir@/wayland-sessions/xfce-wayland.desktop'' file has also been added to xfce4-session for display managers, such as lightdm, with which this has been tested. The command line must also be modified in this file to use a compositor other than the default one. |
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