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releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:csd [2019/09/18 12:32] – [Review of current Xfwm4 decorations vs. CSD] ochosireleng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:csd [2020/08/20 20:50] (current) – add footer nav kevinbowen
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 To use the new HeaderBar in lieu of the traditional XfceTitledDialog heading just add a <property name="use_header_bar">1</property> to your glade file or set the property when creating the dialog via g_object_new. (Note that this setting has to be set at construct time.) To use the new HeaderBar in lieu of the traditional XfceTitledDialog heading just add a <property name="use_header_bar">1</property> to your glade file or set the property when creating the dialog via g_object_new. (Note that this setting has to be set at construct time.)
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 +//For 4.16 we will be going with Scenario 2.//
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 ===== Scenarios ===== ===== Scenarios =====
  
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 This scenario should not be taken as a "go full Gnome style". Despite the fact that HeaderBars by default suck in the ButtonBox/ActionArea of Dialogs, those bottom elements can be retained (as you can see in the screenshots below). This scenario should not be taken as a "go full Gnome style". Despite the fact that HeaderBars by default suck in the ButtonBox/ActionArea of Dialogs, those bottom elements can be retained (as you can see in the screenshots below).
 [[https://elementary.io|elementary]] would be one proponent of a Desktop Environment using CSD, albeit without the background of also providing the DE to mobile devices. Hence their usage/implementation of CSD is "less pronounced" than Gnome's, see e.g. their Video Player. (The elementary example is only meant to illustrate that there isn't only one way to use HeaderBars.) [[https://elementary.io|elementary]] would be one proponent of a Desktop Environment using CSD, albeit without the background of also providing the DE to mobile devices. Hence their usage/implementation of CSD is "less pronounced" than Gnome's, see e.g. their Video Player. (The elementary example is only meant to illustrate that there isn't only one way to use HeaderBars.)
-==== Scenario 2: Full CSD, not full HeaderBar ====+ 
 +==== Scenario 2: Full CSD, not full HeaderBar (selected for 4.16) ====
  
 This means This means
   * replacing XfceTitledDialog with a HeaderBar containing "[icon] [title|subtitle] [window controls]"   * replacing XfceTitledDialog with a HeaderBar containing "[icon] [title|subtitle] [window controls]"
-  * re-designing those apps that seem like low-hanging fruit (Taskmanager? Parole?)+  * re-designing those apps that seem like low-hanging fruit (Taskmanager?)
   * using CSD only as simple window decorations for applications   * using CSD only as simple window decorations for applications
-  * SSD can still be dropped from xfwm4 (ochosi: not sure if it could really be dropped - olivier?) 
   * this ensures we can gradually make changes and get feedback along the way   * this ensures we can gradually make changes and get feedback along the way
  
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   * only using CSD for XfceTitledDialog (see scenario 2) and leaving the rest unchanged, so Xfwm4 decorations for applications like Thunar.   * only using CSD for XfceTitledDialog (see scenario 2) and leaving the rest unchanged, so Xfwm4 decorations for applications like Thunar.
   * low effort   * low effort
-  * SSD cannot the dropped from xfwm4 +  * visual inconsistency and uncertainty for app devs if they can/should/shouldn't switch to CSD
-  * some visual inconsistency and uncertainty for app devs if they can/should/shouldn't switch to CSD+
  
 ==== Scenario 4: Stay where we are ==== ==== Scenario 4: Stay where we are ====
  
 This means changing nothing with respect to window decorations or XfceTitledDialog. This means changing nothing with respect to window decorations or XfceTitledDialog.
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 ===== General Advantages and Disadvantages ===== ===== General Advantages and Disadvantages =====
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   * Risk of inconsistency if we don't write down good guidelines how headerbars/CSD should look in Xfce (example of possible inconsistency: app icons or not, window title or not)   * Risk of inconsistency if we don't write down good guidelines how headerbars/CSD should look in Xfce (example of possible inconsistency: app icons or not, window title or not)
   * Users cannot match titlebar style and Gtk+ style independently (so if they don't like the look, they have to search for another theme)   * Users cannot match titlebar style and Gtk+ style independently (so if they don't like the look, they have to search for another theme)
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 ====== Screenshots ====== ====== Screenshots ======
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 ===== Preferences Dialogs (libxfce4ui aka XfceTitledDialog) ===== ===== Preferences Dialogs (libxfce4ui aka XfceTitledDialog) =====
  
 +==== Panel Settings (Dark Mode enabled) ====
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 +{{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:panel-dark.png?direct&200|}}
 +{{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:panel-dark-csd.png?direct&200|}}
 ==== Appearance Settings ==== ==== Appearance Settings ====
  
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 ===== Applications ===== ===== Applications =====
  
 +Three applications, one with a headerbar redesign (Taskmanager), one which is practically a settings dialog (Notifyd) and one with a minimal/zero-redesign CSD (Parole) to highlight different options/steps we have/can take when trying a transition.
 ==== Taskmanager ==== ==== Taskmanager ====
  
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 {{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:parole.png?direct&200|}} {{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:parole.png?direct&200|}}
 {{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:parole-csd.png?direct&200|}} {{:releng:4.16:roadmap:general_ui:parole-csd.png?direct&200|}}
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